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PostSubject: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:43 pm

Why? Really? I want to know.

Why is nudity, in video games, an issue? People seem to think nudity is unnatural when mutilation is natural. (It isn't like you're seeing ACTUAL nudity, just pixelated nudity). I also find it funny that you're a "pervert" if you mention the "N word" (nudity) now.

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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:38 pm

Because this is America.
Violence is completely fine, yet any sexual implications aren't.
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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:30 pm

The Laughing Man wrote:
Why? Really? I want to know.

Why is nudity, in video games, an issue? People seem to think nudity is unnatural when mutilation is natural. (It isn't like you're seeing ACTUAL nudity, just pixelated nudity). I also find it funny that you're a "pervert" if you mention the "N word" (nudity) now.

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It goes something like this: For everything below a Mature rating is going to be marketed towards minors, not exclusively minors (since the average age is somewhere around 25) but most likely the game is going to be either attractive to or playable by minors.

Now the government has set 18 as the age where you are definitely old enough, regardless of upbringing, to handle sex in a mature manner without possibility of becoming scared by it. While this level of maturity can be reached beforehand, the government can't really set laws that are age variable. With this in mind store owners can prevent any possibility of being charged with providing something that could be misconstrued as pornography to minors.

Mature allows everything up to full frontal nudity (God of War comes to mind) so unless you are dying for vagina in a (AAA) video game, I think you are okay. A vagina doesn't really improve the story any more than a wang would, and I can't think of a time where I thought a game would have been a lot better with a penis on screen. But until any of this changes you can enjoy suggestive material in teen games as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Mon Jun 20, 2011 7:59 pm

GTA 4 had a wang.
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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:13 pm

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GTA 4 had a wang.

I wouldn't know, I couldn't play that game for more than an hour before I had to put it down and never play it again.

Perhaps wangs are classified differently or the ratings for DLC is more lenient.
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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:25 pm

The Witcher 2 showed full frontal on a woman.

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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:29 pm

Minecraft has green terrorist wangs.
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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:27 am

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The Witcher 2 showed full frontal on a woman.

You know the more I look into it, I just don't know the difference between an AO game and a Mature game with sexual content anymore.

Mass Effect 1 and 2 get an M for some of the tamest scenes ever (two nude adults making out without showing anything important) and gets protested. The Guy Game manages an M rating, despite being exclusively for the purpose of beating your meat. Meanwhile games like the Witcher 1/2 get an M without anybody raising much of a stink, and if I am right you get to see a decent more than. Granted W1 actually was rated AO originally, but they cut the content (only to patch it again later which just seems to render the rating process moot).

I'm just sorely confused just what constitutes an AO rating anymore. I mean I guess the answer is that you can't ever really get an AO rating for sex until your franchise has pissed off someone in the media. And what is the point of having a rating system if developers can sneak around it with a patch? That would certainly point towards DLC having different rules, but I don't really see what makes DLC so special that it doesn't get the same scrutiny. Just seems like the entire process is goofy if you can full on make a game with some story around it, slap in a rudimentary sex simulator, mail it to the ESRB, if they give you an AO, you put some clothes on the offending characters, mail it back, get an M rating, then patch it to all your customers who bought the $80 Fun Edition.

But I suppose the answer to the original question: violence has always been more acceptable to sex. If it wasn't we'd fight wars with rape and lock up abusers.
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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:34 am

I think nudity is becoming more or less fine, but straight up sexy times is left for AO.
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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:47 am

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But I suppose the answer to the original question: violence has always been more acceptable to sex. If it wasn't we'd fight wars with rape and lock up abusers.

Look in africa. Them rebels love to get some refugee nookie, both as a recreation and as a fear tactic.
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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:56 pm

Wang and 'vajayjay' = moar immersion. Moar immersion = (overall) better gaming experience. Don't lie Ixidor...you know it to be true. Twisted Evil

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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:43 pm

Because more men than women play video games and semen tends to break both the game and the console.

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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:06 pm

Vigo Surai wrote:
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But I suppose the answer to the original question: violence has always been more acceptable to sex. If it wasn't we'd fight wars with rape and lock up abusers.

Look in africa. Them rebels love to get some refugee nookie, both as a recreation and as a fear tactic.


And the Russians raped over a million women in Berlin after WWII....

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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Tue Jun 21, 2011 3:08 pm

They shouldn't have been wearing such slutty outfits.
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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:33 pm

Brucil wrote:
Vigo Surai wrote:
Ixidor Asgrod wrote:


But I suppose the answer to the original question: violence has always been more acceptable to sex. If it wasn't we'd fight wars with rape and lock up abusers.

Look in africa. Them rebels love to get some refugee nookie, both as a recreation and as a fear tactic.


And the Russians raped over a million women in Berlin after WWII....

I'm just saying you don't bring a dick to a gun fight.

As for rape in warzones kind of stuff, and especially the Soviet dealio, according to my hand dandy textbook on Women (we actually just finished the chapter on this topic) rape in those cases are less about using it to freak out the enemy, and more about being a symbol of your nation's conquering the other. The victim becomes a symbol of the nation who lost. Especially with the WW2 example, the people freed from concentration camps weren't exactly spared either, which would make no sense from a war situation.
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PostSubject: Re: Video Games: Why is nudity an issue?   Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:07 pm

Ixidor Asgrod wrote:
I'm just saying you don't bring a dick to a gun fight.

It's things like this that keep me posting in this forum.
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